The Great Debate

[KC]

This is a specific thread for you all to squabble and argue over Jury questioning and your final vote. Keep all bullshit out of this thread and in the other one. This should be strictly used for serious discussions.

I would like all jurors to show some sort of life in this thread.

As for the voting, you may vote once the final two have posted their opening statements. You will be posting these votes in your voting history and I ask that you please use the parchment that you've been using all season.

You are all required to participate in Jury questioning. If you don't have a question, give a statement. Anyone who fails to do this, I reserve the right to replace you with Ben or Erin.

Good luck with your decisions.

[Judd Sergeant]

Todd is correct, he has a lot of work to do. Without hearing answers or anything, I think Jess has this game.

[JT]

Guys dont bother reading Todd's Opening statement....I'll just sum it up for ya.

Thnx Jess...my alliance made it to the end...this game was hard.

[Judd Sergeant]

Lol, JT. What did Todd REALLY do in this game? Frankly, I think they both rode Kenny's coattails and Kenny got the short end of the stick when he didn't win the final immunity challenge. They both did their fair share of lying and manipulating, but Jessica was less of a douchebag while doing it. I'm VERY curious to see what she has to say, and I'm also really excited to see your guys' questions

[Parvati Shallow]

I think Jessica is the clear Jury favorite prior to statements. We have Michelle her B.F.F and then we have Colby who worked with Jess all game. Then there is J.T. who Jessica clearly likes, but imo stupidly switched votes and is mad about it. It was a pretty stupid move...but it's probably better for her because the only person I think she would of beat in the final 2 is Todd. (Has a chance at least) So anyways I'm not saying your all locks to vote her (Except Michelle =p) but I think she has the advantage right now.

And Todd's opening annoys me. "The way that I was perceived in my alliance was out of my control, and if that was on the outs or a coattail rider then so be it. I don't feel like I was either of those things." YES YOU WERE. You were nearly the boot when they thought Stephenie had the idol. And who thought about booting you??? Jessica xD

[Parvati Shallow]

May 6, 2010 14:27:35 GMT -5 Judd Sergeant said:

Lol, JT. What did Todd REALLY do in this game? Frankly, I think they both rode Kenny's coattails and Kenny got the short end of the stick when he didn't win the final immunity challenge. They both did their fair share of lying and manipulating, but Jessica was less of a douchebag while doing it. I'm VERY curious to see what she has to say, and I'm also really excited to see your guys' questions

That's because she never talked to people after the merge. Once her side was set, she didn't bother talking to me. Todd tried to talk at least. I remember at final 6 he says "Hi Parv" and I go "hi are you voting me?" and he goes "Yeah probably" and I go "then why are you im-ing me?" lolol. I think he was trying to kiss arse for Jury votes. But at least it's more than ignoring.


Oh and what the eff was Jessica's plans at final 9 and 8? If those idols weren't in play or weren't used she'd be out. She did absolutely nothing to sway the vote in another direction. Todd tried to sway the vote to someone both times..like Michelle at F10. Not like he had a say, but he tried. Also a reason Todd was protected at those stages was a final 4 alliance of him, Ken, myself, and Heidi. While it was ultimately fake, it def. helped him stay longer. At least he had a back up plan at that stage. (When numbers were in minority for him)

[kenny]

They both relied heavily on the Dani alliance but very well said by Parvati, Todd had some insurance with that final 4 alliance. While Jess was going down on the ship and didn't want to do anything about it.

One thing that stands out is Jessica was going to get 9th place, she knew she was leaving and didn't want to try and do anything about it. Right before tribal I tell her I have the idol and I'm giving it to her, she plays it and Aras goes. The following week, Todd was the one who had to give Jessica the idol.

Once Dani gained numbers, neither of them really did jack shit until the final 4. In the revote I was letting Jessica do her own thing, Todd continued to work on me and eventually got me to care about who stayed and who left. I went to Jessica and got her to do the dumbest move in the game by voting out JT. Her not giving JT the idol I gave her was another bad move.

I have to add this as well, since I admire certain jury people. We can not vote for Jessica because she gave me false hope on taking me to final 2. If a couple certain people vote Jessica, then you are the biggest hypocrite ever...... obviously I'm being sarcastic on this last statement or am I?

[Parvati Shallow]

If that last statement is directed at me then u can eat lemons :x
We were close from day 1 so you abandoning me hurt more than if someone else did that to me.

Anyways, yes thank you, I agree about Todd caring more and trying harder.

Also, yes Jessica's move was retarted at final 4...but it was the best thing for her. She couldn't beat you or J.T. The problem is she doesn't know it was her best move. Or maybe she does and she is counting on J.T.'s Jury vote. idk (Doubt it)

[natalie]

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Guess I'm voting for Todd~!

[Parvati Shallow]

LOL

[Judd Sergeant]

This was pretty much the only discernible move that Jessica made post-merge. However, I still think that puts her one step ahead of Todd. Yes, you guys were able to oust us using idols, but that doesn't really show any strategy. Kenny was the mastermind in the alliance and Jessica and Todd just followed, but (at least from my point of view) Jessica was nice about it. And when neither of them really had a strategy, what else do you have to go on?

[kenny]

Just because Jess votes me out puts her ahead of Toddy?

The idols played a big role, but it's not like you guys didn't have an idol too. :-! Also I think the biggest thing was JT's role in voting out Heidi. If you want to talk about one move, don't be looking over the point that Todd basically got me to get Jess to vote out JT. Yes it was through a 3rd party move, but if he hadn't of done it then it would have tied and who knows who would have won the tie breaker challenge. Plus you saying the idols played a big role in it, Todd was the one who found the second one, anyone can sit around act pretty and play 3 idols that were all given to her, I don't think that takes any kind of skill.

Look what Sandra and Jerri did a few weeks back on H vs V. Are you going to tell me that Sandra/Jerri had a role in that? I don't think so, that was all Parvati's doing.

[Heidi]

I don't know what to do hehe

[kenny]

I forgot about one move Jess did make or maybe it was Todd, during the week Natalie left I told them not to use the Idol. I'm unsure on which person was behind the move but somehow they talked and Todd gave Jess the idol and used it. I had no idea about any of that.

That was the vote I was double blindsided by 2 idols..

[Parvati Shallow]

lol, I think Jessica's paranoia about it made Todd give it to her, but someone should ask that